Lee Anderson and Nick Robinson clashed at present after the Reform Celebration was accused of taking votes away from the Tories in native elections.
The previous deputy Conservative chairman was sacked from the Tory get together after he refused to apologise for claiming that in London, ‘the reality is that the Islamists, the extremists and the anti-Semites are in cost now’.
After shedding the whip, he turned an unbiased earlier than becoming a member of the Reform Celebration, which was based because the Brexit Celebration by Nigel Farage.
Anderson began his political profession as a councillor for Labour in 2015 earlier than being suspended by his native department for blocking Travellers from organising a camp in 2018 earlier than he defected to the Tories.
In a heated debate on BBC Radio 4 Right this moment, the journeyman politician claimed BBC stalwarts comparable to Nick Robinson and Gary Lineker can be glad if Reform did not stand in native elections.
Nevertheless, Anderson mentioned though Reform was a small get together, it was ‘right here to remain’.

Lee Anderson and Nick Robinson clashed after the Reform Celebration was accused of taking votes away from the Tories in native elections

Robinson requested whether or not, because the Tories have claimed and the polls seen to counsel, Reform is taking votes away from the Conservatives
Rishi Sunak and the Conservatives had a disastrous election evening that noticed Labour win the Blackpool South by-election.
The Tory candidate barely handle to push Reform into third place, by simply 117 votes.
This morning, Robinson requested Anderson: ‘Is that this what you wished to attain once you defected to the Reform get together?’
Anderson replied: ‘I did not defect, let’s get that proper, you are mistaken once more. I used to be an unbiased MP after I joined the Reform Celebration, so if you are going to conduct this interview professionally, let’s get the info proper.’
Robinson retorted: ‘You had been a Conservative, you had been an workplace holder within the Conservative Celebration and joined one other get together.’
Anderson mentioned: ‘Look, hear, I did not defect. Cease being so ridiculous. I used to be an unbiased MP and I joined the Reform Celebration. I did not defect from one get together to a different.’
Lastly, Robinson accepted that Anderson was briefly an unbiased earlier than he joined Reform.
Anderson added: ‘That is cleared that nonsense up, immediately.
‘So it was a superb evening for Labour, let’s be sincere. It was a really, very poor evening for the Conservative Celebration.
‘We obtained practically 17 per cent right here in Blackpool, which is great. That is above our polling nationally.

Anderson accused Robinson of getting his info mistaken in a heated debate on Radio 4 Right this moment

Robinson mentioned: ‘The place you ran towards the Conservatives the vote went down greater than once you did not run towards the Conservatives, that is only a truth’
‘Up and down the nation we did properly.’
Robinson then requested whether or not a vote for Reform was a vote for Labour, because the Tories have urged and the polls appear to substantiate.
He mentioned: ‘What they are saying, your outdated buddies within the Conservative Celebration, which simply to remind you, you had been Deputy Chairman of, what they are saying is, you vote reform and also you get Labour.
‘John Curtice, the famend psephologist, factors out that within the areas you ran, the Conservative vote was down 17 per cent on common but it surely was solely down 11 per cent the place you did not run. So it’s clearly the case that you simply injury the Conservatives, is not it?’
Anderson, infuriated once more, mentioned: ‘To begin with, I do not know why it’s a must to hold reminding me that I used to be a Deputy Chairman of the Conservative Celebration. I believe anyone who’s considering politics would have recognized that anyway, in order that’s a reasonably pointless remark once more from you.
‘However you take a look at plenty of the polls up and down the nation, and in plenty of the council elections we noticed final evening, Labour are getting 50, 60 per cent of the vote.
‘So you could possibly’ve knocked all of the Reform and the Conservative votes and the Inexperienced votes and the unbiased votes collectively and the Labour Celebration would’ve nonetheless gained.’
Robinson replied: ‘However the place you ran towards the Conservatives the vote went down greater than once you did not run towards the Conservatives, that is only a truth.’
Anderson requested: ‘What are you making an attempt to say Nick?’
‘I am asking you a few truth,’ Robinson mentioned.
The previous Tory MP replied: ‘I do know the Reform Celebration not standing in these areas can be music to your ears and the Gary Linekers of the BBC however look, we’re right here to remain. We’re making inroads, we’re a small get together.
‘Our trajectory goes up and up and up and the Tory get together goes down and down and down and are available the Normal Election, this get together goes to win seats, so a vote for Reform might be a vote for Reform.’
In the meantime, Reform UK chief Richard Tice mentioned the Blackpool by-election was an ‘extraordinary evening’.
‘This was our greatest by-election by a major margin, method above our nationwide polling common,’ he informed BBC Information.
Mr Tice added: ‘What it reveals really with nice native candidates, increasingly persons are listening to about Reform they usually just like the message they hear.’
After it was urged the Reform Celebration had an extended journey forward if it wished to win a seat on the Normal Election, he mentioned ‘we have got the mistaken electoral system on this nation’.
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